This is my interview with my mentor Michael Turk who is a nationally known expert, author, and teacher. He lectures on the use of acupuncture, massage, and moxibustion to treat chronic pain and disability. Turk has taught natural healing for over 40 years and traditional Chinese medicine for over 30 years at California schools and international conferences. His easy-to-read book on acupressure massage, Pain’s Healing Secret, is used as a text in massage classes.